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SolarWinds Company (SWI) This autumn 2021 Earnings Name Transcript


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SolarWinds Company (NYSE:SWI)
This autumn 2021 Earnings Name
Feb 17, 2022, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Ready Remarks
  • Questions and Solutions
  • Name Contributors

Ready Remarks:

Dave Hafner

Good morning, everybody, and welcome to SolarWinds’ fourth quarter 2021 earnings name. With me at present are Sudhakar Ramakrishna, our president and CEO; and Bart Kalsu, government vice chairman and CFO. Following ready remarks, we’ll have a quick question-and-answer session. This name is being concurrently webcast on our Investor Relations web site at buyers.solarwinds.com.

On our Investor Relations web site, you can too discover our earnings press launch and a abstract slide deck, which is meant to complement our ready remarks throughout at present’s name. Please do not forget that sure statements made throughout this name are forward-looking statements, together with these regarding our monetary outlook, the affect of the cyber incident on our enterprise, our market alternatives, the affect of the worldwide financial surroundings on our enterprise and the affect of the spin-off of the N-able enterprise. These statements are primarily based on at the moment out there data and assumptions, and we undertake no obligation to replace this data besides as required by legislation. These statements are additionally topic to a lot of dangers and uncertainties, together with the quite a few dangers associated to the cyber incident and the finished spin-off of the N-able enterprise.

Further data regarding these statements and the dangers and uncertainties related to them is highlighted in at present’s earnings press launch and in our filings with the SEC. Copies can be found from the SEC or on our Investor Relations web site. We accomplished the spin-off of the N-able enterprise on July 19, 2021, and accordingly, have included the outcomes of the N-able enterprise as discontinued operations for present and historic durations. Due to this fact, the monetary outcomes introduced on this name mirror SolarWinds as a stand-alone enterprise and don’t embrace any contribution from the N-able enterprise.

Moreover, we’ll talk about numerous non-GAAP monetary measures on at present’s name. Except in any other case specified, after we discuss with the monetary measures, we might be referring to the non-GAAP monetary measure. A reconciliation of the variations between GAAP and non-GAAP monetary measures mentioned on at present’s name can be found in our earnings launch and abstract slide deck on the Investor Relations web page of our web site. We notice additionally that as a result of there was no affect of buy accounting on income within the fourth quarter of 2021, our GAAP whole income for the quarter is equal to the non-GAAP whole income measure that we have now traditionally reported.

Starting within the first quarter of 2022, we’ll not regulate our income for the affect of buy accounting. With that, I will now flip the decision over to Sudhakar.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everybody, and thanks for becoming a member of us at present. I hope you are doing nicely and staying secure. As soon as once more, I wish to begin by thanking our staff, prospects, companions and our shareholders for his or her ongoing dedication to SolarWinds.

It is now just a little over a yr since I joined SolarWinds. Because of the competence, dedication, nice attitudes and resilience of your complete SolarWinds workforce, we have now made vital progress associated to our key priorities of buyer retention, growing our give attention to subscription income progress and evolution to platform-based options. The efforts of our workforce resulted in a number of highlights in our efficiency, which I will go into shortly. As a lot of you might be additionally conscious, we held our annual Analyst Day assembly on November 10, 2021.

Throughout this digital occasion, we described our portfolio and go-to-market plans for SolarWinds, our increasing market alternative, which we imagine will quantity to roughly $60 billion by 2025; and our objective to attain at the very least $1 billion in ARR by 2025, with a compounded annual subscription ARR progress north of 30% over that point interval; after which constructing to EBITDA margins within the mid-40s. We imagine this mix of high line scale, progress and powerful profitability will put us in a small group of public software program firms with an identical monetary profile. As I discussed earlier, we had a number of highlights within the fourth quarter of 2021. I will contact on a number of the highlights earlier than turning it over to Bart for extra colour on the fourth quarter, in addition to our monetary outlook for the primary quarter and full yr of 2022.

The continued relevance of our options, the execution skills of our groups and the belief that our prospects have in us had been all on show through the fourth quarter. For the fourth quarter, we delivered revenues of $186.7 million, above the excessive finish of the vary we offered of $180 million to $184 million. Adjusted EBITDA was $78.4 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 42%, once more, exceeding the excessive finish of our outlook for the fourth quarter. Buyer retention remained our high precedence all through 2021, and we made nice progress towards this objective in This autumn.

Our trailing 12-month This autumn upkeep renewal fee of 88% was above the low- to mid-80% renewal charges we famous — we anticipated in 2021. Primarily based on our prospects’ loyalty and powerful execution of our buyer and go-to-market groups, we count on to return to our retention charges to enhance in 2022 and strategy our historic best-in-class ranges within the low-90% vary. Our continued give attention to driving subscription-first resulted in an 18% year-over-year enhance in subscription revenues within the fourth quarter, and we imagine we’re well-positioned to speed up this degree of progress shifting ahead. For the complete yr, we delivered $719 million of GAAP revenues, representing flat year-over-year efficiency relative to 2020; and adjusted EBITDA of $303 million, representing a 42% EBITDA margin whereas rising subscription income 19% yr over yr on a GAAP foundation.

We anticipate each our license and subscription revenues to develop in 2022, reflecting a restoration in gross sales to new and present prospects and additional increasing our recurring income base. Our give attention to delivering easy, highly effective and safe options, mixed with our nonetheless very early efforts to construct out our system integrator and enterprise go-to-market motions consequently — has resulted in continued ASP growth and an growing variety of giant offers. Particularly, our product and platform integrations mixed with simplified packaging and pricing, delivered large worth to prospects, leading to a number of million greenback plus offers and an growing variety of $100,000 offers in 2021. Our efforts to transition our prospects to our new SolarWinds’ observability choices was nicely acquired within the second half of 2021.

Whereas nonetheless very early, each buyer adoption and subscription bookings have been very encouraging. Clients want to leverage their on-premises deployments whereas seamlessly connecting to the cloud, and we’re offering them with the answer to perform their objective whereas modernizing their deployments and serving to them speed up their digital transformations. This subscription transformation to SolarWinds’ observability will turn out to be a mainstay starting in 2022. Our AIOps capabilities are being delivered on the identical platform, additional bolstering our prospects’ productiveness by serving to them to handle their deployments extra merely to isolate points effectively and to remediate them shortly.

We’re unifying our software monitoring options to provide prospects even simpler methods to deploy and eat them. Software monitoring will turn out to be an integral a part of our SolarWind’s platform. We imagine our database monitoring options proceed to guide the market with vital depth and breadth throughout performance, platform and deployment help. Our quantity of $100,000-plus offers has continued to develop alongside our SolarWinds’ velocity movement.

We intend to proceed working carefully with our hyperscaler companions like Azure and AWS to additional speed up our progress. Our service desk options are ideally suited to the mid-market, and we’re accelerating our integrations most not too long ago with Microsoft Groups. Whereas we imagine the stand-alone movement will proceed to speed up, our Service Desk options will turn out to be integral parts of the SolarWinds platform to help our automation and remediation capabilities. We proceed to take our dedication to constructing a safer and safer buyer surroundings very critically.

To this finish, we’re engaged on all facets of our Safe by Design initiative, which I detailed in 2021. Our groups not too long ago revealed a white paper on our next-generation construct techniques, that may be a results of our efforts to set a brand new normal in safe software program improvement to have interaction with and contribute to open supply efforts and to share what we have now realized to assist safe software program provide chain practices. It’s my hope that your complete business will embrace these practices and collectively, we will allow our prospects’ digital transformation securely. With that, I’ll flip it over to Bart to supply extra particulars on our monetary efficiency and outlook.

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Thanks, Sudhakar, and thanks once more to everybody becoming a member of us on at present’s name. As soon as once more, I’ll talk about our SolarWinds outcomes on a stand-alone foundation. As most of you understand, our spin of the N-able enterprise was efficient on July 19, 2021. Due to this fact, their outcomes are mirrored as discontinued operations in our fourth quarter and full yr monetary outcomes.

Additionally, a fast reminder that the steerage for the fourth quarter that I offered in October didn’t embrace any affect from N-able because the spin has been accomplished previous to the beginning of the fourth quarter. As well as, our public filings will current N-able as discontinued operations in prior durations for higher comparability. Firstly of 2021, we decided to not present full yr steerage, given the uncertainty we confronted at the moment because of the cyber incident, the continuing affect of the COVID-19 pandemic and the potential timing of the spin-off of our N-able enterprise. As we mentioned in our This autumn 2020 earnings name, whereas we felt it was too early to foretell a variety of outcomes with our ordinary degree of precision, we had been inspired by the latest buyer engagements and centered on buyer retention and sustaining renewal charges above 80%.

Reflecting again on the yr, regardless of the numerous challenges we confronted, we’re happy with our efficiency and count on to enhance upon it in 2022. Though we had indicated that we anticipated upkeep renewal charges to be within the low- to mid-80s, we ended the yr with renewal charges at roughly 88% for 2021. We additionally noticed new gross sales enhance as we moved by means of the yr in our industrial enterprise, and our fourth quarter monetary outcomes mirror one other quarter of enhancing execution. That execution led to a different quarter of better-than-expected monetary outcomes with whole income ending at $186.7 million, nicely above the excessive finish of our whole income outlook of $180 million to $184 million.

For the fourth quarter of 2021, there was no affect to buy accounting on income, so our GAAP whole income is equal to the non-GAAP whole income measure we have now traditionally reported. Whole license and upkeep income was $152 million within the fourth quarter, which is a lower of three% from the prior yr interval. Upkeep income was $119 million within the fourth quarter, which is a lower of three% from the prior yr. As we talked about at our Analyst Day, our upkeep income has been impacted by a mix of year-over-year declines in license gross sales for the previous 9 quarters and a discount in our renewal charges in 2021.

The pattern of decrease license gross sales intensified with the introduction of subscriptions of our licensed merchandise within the second quarter of 2020, in addition to the cyber incident in December of 2020 as nicely. We focus extra of our efforts on longer-term buyer success and retention. As I discussed earlier, we’re inspired by the truth that our renewal charges remained larger than our expectation of low- to mid-80s that we shared firstly of 2021. On a trailing 12-month foundation, our upkeep renewal fee is 88%.

Working with our prospects has been a high precedence this yr, and our renewal charges mirror our give attention to prospects and the belief they place in our options and relationships. Additionally in step with latest quarters, we need to present the in-quarter renewal fee for the fourth quarter, which at the moment stands at roughly 87%. However imagine it will likely be 88% by the top of the primary quarter, which once more is above our expectations firstly of the yr. For the fourth quarter, license income was $33.8 million, which represents a decline of roughly 2% as in comparison with the fourth quarter of 2020.

Our new license gross sales efficiency with industrial prospects improved sequentially every quarter through the yr. On-premises subscription gross sales resulted in an roughly 8 share level headwind to our license income for the quarter. Shifting to our subscription income. Fourth quarter subscription income was $34.4 million, up 18% yr over yr.

This enhance is because of the further subscription income from SentryOne merchandise, in addition to elevated gross sales of our on-premises subscriptions as a part of our early efforts to shift extra of our enterprise to subscription. Whole ARR reached roughly $631 million as of December 31, 2021, reflecting year-over-year progress of 1% and up barely from our ending third quarter whole ARR steadiness of $624 million. Our subscription ARR of $134.7 million is a rise of greater than 20% yr over yr and three% sequentially from the third quarter. Whole GAAP income for the complete yr ended December 31, 2021, was $719 million.

Subscription income was $125 million of that whole and represents progress of 19% yr over yr on a GAAP foundation. The expansion was led by our continued give attention to increasing our subscription choices by means of our on-premises subscription gross sales, in addition to gross sales of our database choices, together with the SentryOne merchandise acquired within the fourth quarter of 2020. Whole license and upkeep income for the complete yr in 2021 decreased 3% yr over yr to $594 million. Whole upkeep income grew 2%, reaching $479 million.

License income for the complete yr was negatively impacted by a mix of the 2021 cyber incident and the affect of providing perpetual license merchandise on a subscription foundation, which we count on to yield extra income over the complete period of a typical buyer lifetime however negatively impacts license income and whole income within the near-term. We completed 2021 with 829 prospects which have spent greater than $100,000 with us within the final 12 months, which is a 5% enchancment over the earlier yr. We proceed to complement our conventional high-velocity, low-touch gross sales strategy with focused efforts to construct bigger relationships with our enterprise prospects, which we spoke about at our Analyst Day in November. We delivered a stable fourth quarter of non-GAAP profitability.

Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $78.4 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 42%, exceeding the excessive finish of the outlook for the quarter regardless of persevering with to put money into our enterprise. And for the yr ended December 31, 2021, adjusted EBITDA was $303 million, representing an adjusted EBITDA margin of 42% as nicely. Excluded from adjusted EBITDA within the fourth quarter are one-time prices of roughly $9.3 million of cyber incident associated remediation, containment, investigation {and professional} charges, internet of insurance coverage proceeds. These one-time prices for the complete yr of 2021 totaled roughly $33.1 million internet of insurance coverage reimbursements.

These cyber incident-related prices should not included within the adjusted EBITDA, are one-time and nonrecurring. They’re separate and distinct from our Safe by Design initiatives, that are aimed toward enhancing our IT safety and provide chain processes. Prices associated to our Safe by Design initiatives are and can stay a part of our recurring price construction on a go-forward foundation. We count on one-time cyber incident-related prices to fluctuate in future quarters, however to general, decrease in future durations.

These one-time cyber prices are, nonetheless, tough to foretell. Web leverage on December 31 was roughly 3.9 occasions our trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA. As a reminder, we retained the complete quantity of the $1.9 billion in time period debt that we had previous to the spin-off of N-able. Our money steadiness was $732 million on the finish of the fourth quarter, bringing our internet debt to roughly $1.2 billion.

Our plan is to maintain that money on our steadiness sheet for the foreseeable future. We intend to keep up flexibility because it pertains to our money on steadiness sheet. Our debt matures in February of 2024, and we count on to reevaluate our degree of gross debt and doable paydowns nicely prematurely of that maturity date. I’ll now stroll you thru our outlook earlier than turning it again over to Sudhakar for some remaining ideas.

We’re offering steerage for the primary quarter of 2022 and for the complete yr of 2022 for whole income, adjusted EBITDA margins and earnings per share. For the complete yr steerage of 2022, we count on whole income to be within the vary of $730 million to $750 million, representing year-over-year progress of two% to 4%. We count on our whole income to be positively impacted by will increase in our license income, in addition to subscription income progress because of a rise in new gross sales in 2022 as in comparison with 2021. We’ll lead with a subscription-first focus because it pertains to new gross sales, and we’ll additionally give attention to migrating our upkeep prospects to our observability merchandise, that are bought as subscriptions, particularly within the second half of the yr after we count on that extra of the performance might be out there.

We count on that our whole income progress might be partially offset by a decline in upkeep income as a consequence of decrease license gross sales over the previous two years. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the yr is anticipated to be roughly 41%. Non-GAAP totally diluted earnings per share is projected to be $1.01 to $1.08 per share, assuming an estimated 162.6 million totally diluted shares excellent. Our full yr and first quarter steerage assumes a euro to greenback trade fee of 1.13 down from the 1.16 we assumed for 2022 after we offered our preliminary 2022 outlook at our Analyst Day in November.

Even so, we’re comfy reaffirming the steerage we gave beforehand. For the primary quarter of 2022, we count on whole income to be within the vary of $173 million to $176 million, representing a year-over-year progress fee of flat to 1%. As soon as once more, we count on license and subscription income progress to be partially offset by a decline in upkeep income, which we count on to be down roughly 4% to five% yr over yr. Adjusted EBITDA margin for the primary quarter is anticipated to be roughly 36%.

Our historic pattern has been that the primary quarter of the yr is at a decrease degree of profitability as a consequence of a number of elements, together with payroll taxes on year-end bonuses, larger ranges of social safety taxes. As well as, the complete affect of our Safe by Design initiatives that we mentioned a yr in the past are actually in place. We count on our degree of profitability to enhance as we transfer by means of the yr as has been the case traditionally as income will increase and our investments scale. As said earlier, our outlook for the complete yr for adjusted EBITDA margins of roughly 41%.

Non-GAAP totally diluted earnings per share is projected to be $0.22 per share, assuming an estimated 160.5 million totally diluted shares excellent. And at last, our outlook for the primary quarter assumes a non-GAAP tax fee of twenty-two%, and we count on to pay roughly $6.5 million in money taxes through the first quarter. We additionally count on that upkeep renewal charges will enhance and proceed to get nearer to historic ranges in 2022. As we take into consideration our EBITDA margins for 2022, the prices related to our Safe by Design initiatives, investments in transitioning our product portfolio to a better subscription combine and our continued investments in our gross sales and advertising initiatives are factored into the margins for the yr and whereas we count on margins to be in step with 2021.

We imagine we’ll return to accelerating margins once more sooner or later, however within the near-term, we’re dedicated to and excited concerning the investments in our enterprise that we shared with you at our Analyst Day in November. Lastly, we imagine our unlevered free money stream conversion will enhance in 2022 over 2021 and we count on to be consistent with our fourth quarter 2021 ranges. With that, I’ll now flip the decision again over to Sudhakar for his closing remarks.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Thanks, Bart. I am happy with our sturdy This autumn efficiency, exceeding our outlook in each whole income and adjusted EBITDA and with how we ended 2021. We’re executing our mission to assist prospects speed up their enterprise transformation through easy, highly effective and safe options for multi-cloud environments. I am enthusiastic about accelerating our potential to serve our prospects and to develop our enterprise.

We count on to ship sturdy license and subscription progress in 2022 through continued execution of our technique. In 2022, we’ll proceed our journey of subscription progress with unified platforms, superior buyer experiences, increasing go-to-market motions and a rising checklist of functions because the foundations for this progress. We’ll proceed to train self-discipline in how we put money into our enterprise with the intention to ship a singular mixture of progress and profitability that we imagine represents a compelling funding alternative. I will conclude by once more thanking our staff, companions and prospects for his or her dedication to SolarWinds.

Bart and I’ll now be glad to handle your questions.

Questions & Solutions:

Operator

[Operator instructions] Your first query at present comes from the road of Sterling Auty with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open.

Sterling AutyJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks. Hello, guys. So when it comes to the brand new buyer wins, I am curious for those who may give us a way of what share of these new prospects are selecting subscription.

And what’s the product that you simply’re type of seeing probably the most success main into these new buyer wins?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Undoubtedly, Sterling. A few other ways to consider it. One is, as I discussed in my remarks, the database alternative is continuous to broaden for us, each on the rate aspect, in addition to, name it, the $100,000 deal — $100,000-plus deal measurement. So lots of these prospects are a great mixture of that prospects want subscription.

Two, is that as we have now launched into integrations and completely different ranges of packaging and pricing for our core merchandise, if I can use that phrase, we have now additionally been in a position to lead with subscription-first in that. And a number of the bigger offers that we received had been subscription offers and more and more within the mid-market, we see the identical focus as prospects transfer, for instance, from both upkeep to a instruments consolidation sort state of affairs, and we have now the chance and the flexibility to promote subscription to them as nicely, and we’re seeing better traction there. So to place it merely, we’re seeing that pattern throughout the board, be it in mid-market or giant enterprise. Nevertheless, it’s not a subscription-only mannequin.

We nonetheless give the choice to the shopper, though we promote on the worth proposition of buying subscription.

Sterling AutyJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Is smart. And one follow-up on that database aspect, are you able to give us a way when it comes to the use case that prospects are placing that into manufacturing? Is it for on-premises databases personal information heart? Or are in addition they utilizing it to possibly handle some storage repositories within the cloud?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

All of these, Sterling, in addition to there are some particular DevOps capabilities that our database monitoring options present as nicely. In order that represents an increasing alternative for us whereas traditionally we have now been centered on ITOps. More and more, we’re serving the wants of DevOps and SRE neighborhood, in addition to it pertains to database and different merchandise.

Sterling AutyJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Acquired it. Thanks.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Matt Hedberg with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Matt HedbergRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

Nice, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Type of taking a step again, it is actually good to listen to improved upkeep renewal charges and expectations into 2022. I assume on the brand new enterprise aspect, form of following up on Sterling’s first query.

How do you guys really feel about type of SME spending traits in 2022? I imply, possibly simply discuss concerning the — on a world foundation or possibly by geo, the way you type of count on type of that new enterprise to pattern in 2022? 

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

So Matt, to begin with, thanks for the query. As you understand, SolarWinds’ basis has been the SME and the mid-market with an increasing movement into enterprise. I’ll say that the enterprise movement, albeit early has been encouraging. However the majority of the enterprise nonetheless comes from SME, and that is the place we count on to see the expansion into 2022.

By way of macro traits, I might say that they’ve they’ve been stabilizing, though I haven’t got proof to inform you that the spend in that sector is accelerating. However that could possibly be a normal assertion about most organizations when it comes to, as they take a look at their wants for the long run, as they take a look at their multi-cloud capabilities. One of many issues that we’re doing for them is how will we declutter their environments, present them simplicity as they deploy these multi-cloud environments at an inexpensive price for them to — from a worth proposition standpoint. So it’s totally a lot a value-based promote.

And in lots of circumstances, what we have now observed, as we have now received offers is it’s a share of pockets shift into us quite than internet new growth.

Matt HedbergRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

Acquired it. Thanks. After which — and possibly simply as a follow-up to the upkeep renewal enhancements that you simply count on in 2022. Clearly, the federal aspect had been working at decrease renewal charges for the final couple of years.

How a lot of — I assume what are form of the expectations on federal upkeep approval — upkeep charges as we transfer into 2022 and past?

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Truly, our federal renewal charges had been pretty in step with our industrial renewal charges in 2021, Matt. And in order we transfer ahead, we’re projecting that very same pattern, to be sincere with you. Clearly, our federal enterprise was impacted in 2021 because of the breach. You noticed that in our third quarter outcomes.

However so far as sustaining and renewing prospects, we’re seeing a optimistic pattern there. All of the efforts that we put into working with our prospects, ensuring they perceive how the breach could have impacted them. As you understand, many of the prospects, that wasn’t the case. And we have executed that with our federal prospects as nicely, and we’re seeing good traction there.

Matt HedbergRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

That is nice. Thanks quite a bit, Bart.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Erik Suppiger with JMP. Your line is now open.

Erik SuppigerJMP Securities — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks for taking my query. Discuss just a little bit concerning the rollout plans for the appliance monitoring service. While you mentioned that is going to be an integral a part of ’22.

How — are you able to discuss just a little bit about timing? After which additionally how do you see the aggressive dynamics taking part in on the market? Is it going to be largely Datadog? New Relic? Or who do you see there?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Undoubtedly. Erik, let me present two components to that query. First is that we have now a reasonably wealthy software monitoring portfolio at present. Nevertheless, most of these merchandise are bought on a person foundation, which means there is a logging product, that may be a particular software monitoring product and so forth.

So what we have now extra not too long ago executed is unified them in a means that permits prospects to extra merely eat them. So consequently, the cross-sell of our present merchandise improves by means of each higher e-commerce integration, in addition to the product integration itself. In order that’s type of, name it, a typical movement. What I used to be referring to once I mentioned APM turns into an integral a part of our SolarWinds platform is that as we come out with our hybrid cloud platform as-a-service platform.

These capabilities might be instantly ported onto that platform and that turns into the idea of all future improvements. By way of the aggressive panorama, all of the rivals that you simply talked about might be related on this area, besides the way in which to consider the SolarWinds platform is, it will likely be a singular integration throughout all types of earlier monitoring, whether or not it’s software, community and infrastructure, database and clearly, the system monitoring items. However with elevated automation and remediation capabilities derived from our service desk options. That’s what will give us a singular mixture, which is the breadth of our options the flexibility to combine them extra merely and securely for our prospects.

In order that would be the worth add be it for the mid-market buyer, albeit for particular segments of our prospects just like the DevOps neighborhood that I discussed earlier.

Erik SuppigerJMP Securities — Analyst

And the way do you count on your pricing to match with the competitors? 

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Yeah. So traditionally, as you understand, we have now been very worth aggressive. And that tendency will proceed going ahead, besides that we are going to be way more centered on value-based pricing going ahead. And within the early checks that we have now executed, that has been very nicely acquired as nicely, each on the packaging entrance, in addition to on the pricing entrance. 

Erik SuppigerJMP Securities — Analyst

Superb. Thanks.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Sanjit Singh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Sanjit SinghMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Thanks for taking the query. I needed to start out my first query on the subject of gross sales. I feel on the Analyst Day, Sudhakar, you form of laid out how you are going to form of evolve the technique and leaning in just a little bit extra into account-based gross sales. What are you able to inform us about how that early traction goes? Sometimes, there’s gross sales kickoff conferences initially of the yr.

How is the — what’s form of Part 1 of that technique in 2022 trying like? And when it comes to hiring towards these initiatives, how would you assess the progress so far?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Sanjit, we simply accomplished our international kickoff occasions, the truth is, a few weeks in the past, which — at which we clearly spoke to our gross sales groups concerning the plans and their motions and so forth, but in addition concerning the product technique and the joy that the workforce share across the unified choices that we’re popping out with. Because it pertains to the gross sales movement, consider it as — I will simply, for the advantage of all people, remind us of the three broad motions, name it, the rate movement, which is a conventional SolarWinds movement. After which we have now expanded to extra of the mid-market and the enterprise movement. The investments within the latter two, we began making them within the second half of final yr with the expectation that as we enter 2022, we’ll begin getting higher and fuller yields from these groups.

Lots of these groups are already in place, particularly in EMEA, these are already in place and so they’re already moving into productiveness. Within the Americas, it’s nonetheless a piece in progress, however we’re making superb traction. And equally, in APJ, we have now added these sources as nicely. So account-based advertising movement has been standardized throughout the corporate at present, pushed by our advertising groups at the side of our gross sales workforce.

So what it is best to count on to see, and I gave you some very early indicators of that within the This autumn earnings report, of a number of million greenback offers, growing variety of $100,000-plus offers that Bart additionally famous as prospects spending with us. So what we see is a transparent enhance of the ASP traits that we have now. On the similar time, our intention just isn’t solely to proceed maintaining the ASPs going up but in addition the transactions going up, which is why I say we have to proceed nourishing our velocity movement.

Sanjit SinghMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Makes whole sense. And really encouraging to listen to the traction together with your bigger prospects in This autumn. As my follow-up query, I simply need to discuss concerning the trajectory of progress all year long. The complete yr information is unquestionably encouraging.

Q1 begins from a decrease degree of progress. And may you form of join the dots on why the weaker progress to start the yr? And the way do you count on that to pattern as we get all year long? And any feedback there could be useful. 

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

OK. Yeah. One factor, Sanjit, that pattern is in step with our prior years. We have all the time had just a little decrease income within the first quarter notably because it pertains to license income traditionally.

This yr, nonetheless, we’re dealing with a headwind because it pertains to upkeep income. We talked about again at Analyst Day, how upkeep income was going to be flat to barely down in 2022. However the primary factor is upkeep income reaccelerates within the again half of the yr. In order that affect is most closely felt within the first quarter.

So once you’re placing collectively your fashions, you now need to take into consideration upkeep income being at its lowest level within the first quarter after which it begins to choose again up as we transfer by means of the yr. So it is actually the mix of these two issues. It is why Q1 is — from a progress perspective, goes to be our lowest quarter within the yr and primarily based on the way in which we laid it out. So as soon as once more, very in step with what we have executed and the way in which we projected prior to now.

Sanjit SinghMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Tremendous useful. Thanks, Bart.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Rob Oliver with Baird. Your line is now open.

Rob OliverRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Hello. Nice. Good morning, guys. Sudhakar, one so that you can begin.

After which Bart, I had follow-up for you. So Sudhakar, on the federal portion of the enterprise. Clearly, per your earlier commentary, you guys have executed a extremely excellent job sustaining the renewal charges by means of lots of variables publish the hack. As we get into the federal year-end in ’22, what represent success for you guys right here? I imply lots of product initiatives, you have received the unified UI.

Is the thought at federal to have the ability to simply get the renewal charges at — had been higher or constant on the core? Or is there a chance right here as you take a look at federal to drive a number of the newer platform product initiatives into that vertical?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Nice query. So what constitutes success in federal this yr is not going to solely be the sustaining of our renewal charges, which, as you heard, we had been in a position to set up in 2021 but in addition reaching out to prospects and increasing their footprints with the complete complement of our capabilities. So whilst of 2021, whereas it was not our foremost focus, we began introducing database monitoring into federal prospects, and that was very nicely acquired. So the database specialist groups and the federal gross sales groups are working in conjunction to see how we will cross-sell that into Federal Authorities prospects this yr, for example.

I am not proscribing it to simply that. Equally, in speaking to many federal prospects myself, they’ve a really sturdy curiosity in our software monitoring portfolio, not essentially because of the depth and breadth of the capabilities however the simplicity that we ship to their environments. And the synergy, if I can use that phrase, that they’ve relative to the opposite merchandise that we have now deployed in these environments. So these motions will begin accelerating.

And the opposite factor I might notice is that our authorities workforce, broadly talking, has been reaching out to prospects way more for demand gen and promoting actions in 2022 versus, largely talking, stabilizing actions in 2021. And — so these three elements, at a minimal, also needs to contribute to ongoing progress within the enterprise.

Rob OliverRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Nice. Thanks, Sudhakar. That is nice colour. After which Bart, only for you, a little bit of a follow-up to Sanjit’s query earlier round a number of the account-based efforts that you simply guys have that laid out on the Analyst Day, a bunch of recent turf for you guys right here.

And I feel even for firms which have lots of expertise right here, there’s lots of variables this yr, employment prices, hiring, issues like that. So simply possibly you could possibly assist us perceive the way you contemplated a few of these issues or others as you appeared on the steerage for this yr. Thanks.

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

After we put collectively steerage, Rob, lots of elements go into that. Clearly, the enterprise movement for us is one thing we have been speaking about for not simply in 2021, we began a few of these efforts even earlier than that. However I might inform you, it is nonetheless — nearly all of our enterprise continues to be going to be in that quantity and velocity movement that we have all the time had. We’re going to begin to proceed to construct upon the larger relationships that we have had.

I feel one of many issues I talked about in my script was the truth that we have now over 800 prospects who’ve spent greater than $100,000 with us, and that quantity truly grew in 2021. That may nonetheless be the case. However you are able to do the maths on these 800 prospects and get — determine precisely what share of our income that’s. It is — we’re nonetheless dominant on the SME prospects and we nonetheless have most of {our relationships}.

We’re in that lower than $10,000 quantity.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

And that can proceed to be the case. The opposite level I might spotlight on that’s, we have now presence in virtually each giant enterprise there may be. I imply, the truth is, nicely over 498 of the Fortune 500. In order that’s not been the difficulty traditionally.

However many of the purchases in a lot of these environments had been departmental purchases, which is able to look like a mid-market buy. And so the movement that we have now added, each with our direct contact sources and the worldwide system integrator relationships is to mainly broaden it and go throughout division, in addition to to the director of IT/CIO ranges.

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

And the opposite factor, too, is that one of many issues we talked quite a bit about at Analyst Day is that the shift to observability, our — we’ll turn out to be extra of a platform and the truth that you may — it will likely be extra of an built-in product providing in order that hopefully, we’ll have higher upsell alternatives inside the product itself. Up to now, our merchandise have simply primarily been level merchandise. So a brand new gross sales alternative virtually is a whole new focus for us.

Rob OliverRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Nice. Very useful. Thanks once more, guys.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Kingsley Crane with Berenberg. Your line is now open.

Kingsley CraneBerenberg Financial institution — Analyst

I might prefer to suppose extra concerning the steadiness between upkeep progress and subscription progress. What expectations do you could have for changing that upkeep base to subscription in fiscal ’22?

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

So our expectations in 2022 are nonetheless pretty — we’re not aggressively shifting that upkeep base. And the largest cause is as a result of we do not have the complete performance of that — of the product out there. We’re beginning to attain out to the shoppers that we expect can have — could be all in favour of a migration, Kingsley. However so far as it pertains to constructing that into our 2022 expectations, these numbers are nonetheless very, very low.

We’ll discuss extra about that within the second half. Yeah. Yeah.

Kingsley CraneBerenberg Financial institution — Analyst

OK. And so then probably, what might that degree be in ’23? After which additionally simply fascinated about the expansion in subscription income ex that upkeep conversion for actually any yr?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Kingsley, are you able to repeat the second a part of your query?

Kingsley CraneBerenberg Financial institution — Analyst

Eager about the natural progress in subscription income or is the expansion ex the upkeep conversion.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

We’re not stating particular percentages of conversion of upkeep to subscription in that means, Kingsley. What we’re is how will we ship completely different and differentiated performance to our prospects on a go-forward foundation. So let me offer you an event-based mannequin. A buyer, if they’ve any cloud deployment, however on the similar time, need to protect their premises deployment, that will be an excellent candidate for us to evolve them to, name it, cloud connectedness and modernization of their deployments.

So that will be a chief buyer of how we might evolve from upkeep to subscription. However in lots of circumstances, what we additionally skilled at the very least so far is that we additionally skilled a big uptick within the common promoting worth to these prospects. So it’s way more primarily based on want versus a pressured upkeep to subscription like-for-like conversion.

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Yeah. And as you concentrate on subscription income progress for us in 2022, we — like Sudhakar mentioned and one of many issues I emphasize is that we count on subscription income progress to be larger in 2022 than what we had in 2021. And that will all be natural so far as it pertains to the subscription gross sales of our on-premises subscription choices at present, in addition to the observability within the second half of the yr.

Kingsley CraneBerenberg Financial institution — Analyst

OK. It was very useful. Thanks.

Operator

Your subsequent query comes from the road of Connor Passarella with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Connor PassarellaTruist Securities — Analyst

Hey, good morning, workforce. It is Connor on for Terry. Thanks for taking my questions. Only one to start out on buyer technique.

So you have talked about funding in buyer success administration as a complement to our promoting movement. Simply curious as to what impact you have seen CSM have on adoption charges and possibly what sort of advantages there is perhaps from an broaden standpoint because of profitable CSM engagements?

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Completely. So Connor, thanks for the query. I will take that. We began that movement final yr, and it will likely be an increasing movement into 2022.

What we have now noticed up to now is the next. Initially, the CSMs the place centered because of the incident in December 2020 on sustaining prospects, supporting them, bringing them again on-line at the side of our companions and so forth. As we evolve to the second half of 2021, we grew to become way more concerned — or they grew to become way more concerned in pipeline technology actions, in addition to the broaden movement as you referred to. We count on that to proceed going ahead into ’21, particularly within the mid-market to their enterprise movement.

And what we discover is as you’ll be able to think about, due to the direct contact that we have now with the shoppers, the belief that the shoppers have in our CSMs, the pipelines that we generate by means of that converts at a a lot larger fee than what you’d usually count on a marketing-led pipe conversion to occur. In order that’s a big affect that we see in each growth and conversion as we get into ’22 and past.

Connor PassarellaTruist Securities — Analyst

Nice. That is actually useful. Thanks.

Dave Hafner

Sorry about that. We have now time for yet one more query.

Operator

Your final query at present comes from the road of Kirk Materne with Evercore. Your line is now open.

Unknown speaker

Hey, guys. That is [Inaudible] right here asking on behalf of Kirk. However thanks for taking my questions. First, Sudhakar, are you able to give us some extra colour on what provides you confidence that the license enterprise can rebound in ’22 when it comes to like optimistic income progress? And is that simply extra so high of the funnel exercise or as you talked about, extra stability in ASPs or possibly each? After which I’ve a follow-up.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Yeah, positively. So I will remind us of what we did or did not initially of 2021, which is to serve our prospects and get their surroundings steady. We didn’t have interaction in lots of demand gen actions for the primary a part of 2021. I count on 2022 to be a way more regular yr, if I can name it that, when it comes to our demand actions, conversion actions, go-to-market actions and so forth.

In order that’s one issue. The second issue is that all through 2021 and particularly within the second half of 2021, we engaged in including extra folks to our go-to-market efforts, be it in gross sales or in advertising the world over. So I count on to get yield out of these investments into 2022. The very last thing is due to our higher packaging and pricing actions, we are also seeing an uptick in ASP.

In order you’ll be able to mainly create the multiplicative impact of these three to persuade your self that the license progress will occur. Clearly, the inspiration stays. Our options — relevance of our options to our prospects.

Unknown speaker

Gotcha. Is smart. After which simply needed to ask a fast replace on the worldwide initiatives, particularly in Japan and Germany.

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

They had been each — so Germany or I will name it, broadly talking, the DACH area. It was all the time served by our inside gross sales movement. However extra not too long ago, I might say particularly finish of Q3, starting of This autumn, we have now on the bottom sources within the DACH area. That may be a giant, underpenetrated a part of the general marketplace for us.

And whereas early, we have now very sturdy and optimistic indicators there. In Japan, many of the actions so far have been on associate acquisition, associate enablement. As you understand, the motions in Japan are usually just a little bit slower, however as they begin flowing, they have an inclination to maintain. So I might say we’re in enterprise improvement section in Japan and income acceleration section within the DACH area.

Unknown speaker

Yeah. Thanks a lot.

Dave Hafner

[Operator signoff]

Length: 54 minutes

Name individuals:

Dave Hafner

Sudhakar RamakrishnaPresident and Chief Government Officer

Bart KalsuGovernment Vice President and Chief Monetary Officer

Sterling AutyJ.P. Morgan — Analyst

Matt HedbergRBC Capital Markets — Analyst

Erik SuppigerJMP Securities — Analyst

Sanjit SinghMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Rob OliverRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Kingsley CraneBerenberg Financial institution — Analyst

Connor PassarellaTruist Securities — Analyst

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